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Nuking Nagasaki &
Hiroshima, Our Nuking
Nevada
Incinerating Pretty Girls,
Atmospheric Radiation, Our
Callousness
Americans Remember & Speak Out
Not Everyone
Wanted to Bomb Hiroshima—Contrary
to conventional opinion today,
many military leaders of the
time -- including six out of
seven wartime five-star officers
-- criticized the use of the
atomic bomb. Take, for example,
Adm. William Leahy, White House chief of staff and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
during the war. Leahy wrote in
his 1950 memoirs that "the use
of this barbarous weapon at
Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no
material assistance in our war
against Japan. The Japanese were
already defeated and ready to
surrender." Moreover, Leahy
continued, "[I]n being the first
to use it, we had adopted an
ethical standard common to the
barbarians of the Dark Ages. I
was not taught to make war in
that fashion, and wars cannot be
won by destroying women and
children."
President Eisenhower, the Allied commander in Europe during World War II, recalled in 1963,
as he did on several other
occasions, that he had opposed
using the atomic bomb on Japan
during a July 1945 meeting with
Secretary of War Henry Stimson:
"I told him I was against it on
two counts. First, the Japanese
were ready to surrender and it
wasn't necessary to hit them
with that awful thing. Second, I
hated to see our country be the
first to use such a weapon."
Adm. William "Bull" Halsey,
the tough and outspoken
commander of the U.S. Third
Fleet, which participated in the
American offensive against the
Japanese home islands in the
final months of the war,
publicly stated in 1946 that
"the first atomic bomb was an
unnecessary experiment." The
Japanese, he noted, had "put out
a lot of peace feelers through
Russia long before" the bomb was
used.—Leo Maley III and Uday
Mohan.
H-Net
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Responses
I was move by the knowledge
contained in the article "Not
Everyone Wanted to Bomb
Hiroshima" by Leo Maley III
and Uday Mohan that the
top military echelon of the U.S.
military contrary to popular
opinion thought that the
dropping of atomic bombing on
Nagasaki and Hiroshima was
entirely unnecessary. So it
seemed that the Japanese
civilian population suffered
needlessly from a militarily
point of view, but rather
victims from an American
experiment, ordered by Harry S.
Truman, President of the United
States. I thus solicited
responses from a few friends. I
received some poignant replies.
I learned much, so may you: Read
on—Rudy
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I do not have time to talk about
this at length but feel that I
must say this. First, I have a
friend named Hisako. She was
nine at the time of the bomb and
she and her diplomat family were
vacationing in Nagasaki Bay when
the bomb was dropped. What was
a peaceful vacation on a large
yacht turned into a horrific
nightmare. Hisako remembers the
huge flash of light but they
were far enough from the
epicenter not to be burned to a
crisp. Instead they saw the
light but did not hear the
roar.
What they did see and experience
for the rest of their lives was
the manner in which the Bay
turned into a living hell of
scorched and burning bodies
oozing past their yacht. In one
case Hisako remembers a boy
about her age gazing up from the
water begging for help and
asking to come aboard. Her nine
year old brain was changed
forever. When they reached
land, they were horrified to see
that all that they remembered
was but a cinder.
The Japanese have a social
culture where their long black
hair is a center piece. The
effects of the bomb was to
"scald" and "burn" leaving the
skin including the scalp bare.
Those who did not lose their
hair in this way lost if from
radiation, some immediately,
some years later. The loss of
hair in this society that prided
itself on the adornment of hair
and its role in its culture was
devastating. Some of the most
advanced hair research in the
world takes place in Japan even
today.
Hisako also remembers the smell
of death, the sight of the dying
and the calls of the near dead.
And that was only in Nagasaki.
Hiroshima was every worse.
Everyone begging for help. I do
not recall all that she told me
but I was profoundly affected to
hear her story. What I am
trying to say is that while I
saw the story of the Jewish
"holocaust" on TV all of my
life, at least three times a
week on a program called, "The
World At War," I had never
heard of what happened to the
civilian population of Japan.
We need to tell that story of
people still affected by
radiation poisoning. There may
have been many who did not want
to drop this bomb on a civilian
population but someone wanted to
"see what it would be like" and
they did.
Let us tell this story about
what happened to those people at
the hands of the uncivilized. I
have always felt ill about what
happened to Hiroshima and
Nagasaki but am always struck on
colleage campuses that students
do not even know what we are
talking about.
—Peggy
Brooks-Bertram
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Thanks Rudy for sending this on.
Do you imagine the mind set of
people who would go to such
lengths to develop a weapon to
destroy the hair of other human
beings—to tamper with their
spirit and unleash psychological
warfare. God have mercy on their
souls.
—Claire.
Peace Begins
With Me
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Nuking
Nagasaki, Our Callousness
What's key for me in Peggy's
response is that we have
seen plenty of footage on what
the German Nazis and Hitler did
to the Jews of Germany, Poland,
France, and Hungary but very
little, if any, on what
Americans and Truman did to the
people of Hiroshima and
Nagasaki, at least, not the
graphic human outcome of the
murdered and the sufferers
from the dropping of the
atomic bomb, and no serious
questioning of its necessity of
this inhumanity to our fellow
human beings, civilians
(noncombatants).
This "total war," at any human
cost, on specious reasoning, on
propagandistic lies to cover
sheer curiosity and terrorize
the people of the entire globe
that the US military will brook
no opposition set the tenor of
the era of my childhood. Of
course, the Soviets got their
bomb, and then France and
Britain, and the Chinese, and
India and Pakistan, and Israel.
Yes, I have seen some of the
human images of the impact of
the atomic bomb in TV
specials and films. But mostly
what we see is the plane high
view and the mushroom cloud and
hear the commentary of the
necessity of dropping the bomb
in order to save American lives.
Nor do we see footage (seldom)
of the responses of ordinary
Japanese people to their own
holocaust. They must be a highly
tolerant and forgiving people.
In that we are not so aware of
what happened (the human cost in
deaths and sufferings) in
dropping atomic bombs on
Nagasaki and Hiroshima (except
in numerical terms, "acceptable
losses"), it makes me think this
attitude is the cause of the
present blasé and callous
responses of presidential
candidates, especially
Republicans, in enthusiastically
advocating the nuclear option
for Iran to bring them
politically in line with
American imperial aims.
If we had been more attuned to
the horror we created in Japan
and other places, like the
German people to the horror
their leaders created with the
murder of millions of European
Jews, we would not sit idly by
while our presidential
candidates debate over their
willingness to create such
horrors for Iran as if they were
considering calmly what to order
for a future banquet. You'd
think that American voters en
masse would be calling
(emailing) their representatives
that such talk of producing such
horrors on civilians, anywhere,
is inappropriate for civilized
conversation. That it is a
million times worse than using
the N-word.
I have speculated on the kind of
mindset that contemplates such
horrific acts in public forums:
Nuking, Westerns, and White
Manliness.
—Rudy
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Dear Rudy,
It is not nice to incinerate
people. Certainly not pretty
little Japanese girls with
lovely almond-shaped eyes.
Well, actually, it isn't nice to
butcher pretty little Somali
girls with beautifully sad white
eyes. Well actually it isn't
very nice to incinerate pretty
little German girls with
innocent gentle blue eyes. It
isn't nice to nuke anybody, but
I am politically incorrect
enough to express a special
horror at the idea of killing
little girls.
Had I been Harry S. Truman,
would I have fire-bombed
Dresden , where more people were
fried than in Nagasaki? Would I
have ordered the fire-bombing of
Tokyo on March 9, 1945, where it
is said that there were more
Japanese fatalities than at
Hiroshima.
We nuked America too with
atmospheric testing in Nevada.
According to Wikipedia, "During
the 1950s, the mushroom cloud
from these tests could be seen
for almost 100 miles in either
direction, including the city of
Las Vegas, where the tests
became tourist attractions.
Americans headed for Las Vegas
to witness the distant mushroom
clouds that could be seen from
the downtown hotels."
America radio-active poisoned
American citizens on American
soil and this was called a "cold
war." We constantly hear the
filthy stinking lie that war
brings out the best in
people. What rot!
War does not
bring out the best in anybody.
It brings out the very worst!
—Wilson
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Allied decisions, led by the US,
UK, and USSR led to massive,
evil atrocities. There is no
"good" side in war! . . . The
recent death of the captain of
the Enola Gay Bomber that
dropped the atomic bomb on
Hiroshima was reported without
mentioning that every other crew
member and all the crew members
of the Bomber that dropped the A
Bomb on Nagasaki had committed
suicide. Will we have to wait
for more suicides before we end
torture?
—Clingan,
www.actionpreaching.com
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Wilson, You have made clear my
ignorance of what America
achieved in human brutality in
World War II, that which seems
to rival the callous human
devastation of the Nazis:
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machine-gunned the
fleeing population
of Dresden as they
ran to escape the
flames and
explosions (Meredith);
the fire-bombing of
Tokyo "wrought
devastation
comparable to that
caused by the two
atomic attacks,
Saotome said.
Historians estimate
that 140,000 people
were killed in
Hiroshima and 70,000
in Nagasaki" (Common
Dreams).
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I might have seen reports of
these war crimes on TV—both
Dresden and Tokyo, but they did
not sink in. They were not cast
in terms of war crimes, but
rather necessities of war. Maybe
it was because they did not
mount into the millions, as with
the Jewish Holocaust. I suspect
that these war crimes of WWII
have not reached the consciences
of most Americans, or maybe they
have found adequate
justifications so as to render
them rather ethically minor
incidents. I am sure they are
not discussed in the classrooms
of high schools or colleges,
instructors now fearing openly
threats of dismissal.
And as you recall we spoke
before about our
teflon sense of history. The
point I'm trying to make here is
that our lack of sensitivity
to our own
war crimes (incinerating little
girls with pretty eyes) sets the
stage for even greater war
crimes even now, especially in
these times of greed for oil and
high profits at any cost.
Americans on the whole are a
good people, I'd like to think.
But the British too were
involved in Dresden. Both wanted
to show off their new
technologies, play geopolitics
with the Soviets. I am afraid
history is now repeating itself.
But soon we will not have Bush
as a whipping boy, or the bad
boy Republicans to blame for
war-making. I suspect our
war-making around the globe will
continue at least at the same
pace under the Democrats in that
we have both feet now squarely
set in the Mid-East. Withdrawal
would be cowardice in the face
of a weaker enemy. We will not,
as they say, want to lose face,
and let it appear that the
"terrorists" have won.
Maybe Alexander
Crummell was right, as you summarized, "without the guidance of the Mosaic
law, the rule of conscience
could be a prescription for
anarchy. Without the guidance of
the Gospels, law could become a
mockery for justice" (A
Study of Civilization and
Discontent,
277). Or as he
suggested "knowing Jesus" is not
sufficient [we have plenty of
that boosting the present war
policy] but very little of
"imitating Christ."
Well, it seems we have global
anarchy, not initiated by the
democratic mob on the streets,
that Crummell feared, but
rather an authoritarian small
clique who peeks from behind
polished
doors within governments, whose
military is armed to the
teeth. They rally the so-called
Christian evangelical mobs with
radio and TV broadcasts to
support the favorite fascist,
supported by wealthy corporate
sponsors.
After 4 years of war in Iraq and
Afghanistan, I'm afraid that the
American middle class, who will
have to pay for these wars, on
the whole. have become rather
inured to the inhumanity of
modern mechanized and
computerized wars with their
private and professional armies,
its human devastation
(incineration of little girls
with pretty eyes, and little
boys as well)—"We don't do body
count." If there is a concern it
is more on the financial end at
the gas pump. This is serious
ethical damage to the American
conscience, if indeed such a
thing ever existed, that only a
handful seem to make their
concerns.
Maybe I moralize too much here.
—Rudy
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My my my, what did I spark with
that first hand remembrance of
Nagasaki Bay! It has started
me to thinking about it all over
again.
—Peggy
Brooks-Bertram
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More than one WW2 vet recalls
capturing German soldiers by the
hundreds and having them killed
and bulldozed. We must also stop
being "Good Germans" while
overlooking our Immigration
Officers' Gestapo like tactics,
breaking into undocumented
immigrants' residences in the
middle of the night and
snatching them away from their
spouses and families, and an
incoming Attorney General who
will not say torture is wrong.
—Clingan
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